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		<title>For the Benefit of the Adversaries of Intelligent Design</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 02:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>J. W. Kraft</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It really disturbs me when terms are abused and this happens often.  It is especially disturbing when those who are adversarial to the term in question use it to mean something it does not.  This means they are either ignorant &#8230; <a href="http://www.jwkraft.com/2009/01/04/for-the-benefit-of-the-adversaries-of-intelligent-design/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>It really disturbs me when terms are abused and this happens often.  It is especially disturbing when those who are adversarial to the term in question use it to mean something it does not.  This means they are either ignorant or dishonest.  So this is a public service announcement for the benefit of all the adversaries of Intelligent Design out there.</p>
<p>Intelligent Design is not a rival to Evolution.  When you pit the two against one another, you sound stupid.  You are making either a claim from ignorance or are being dishonest.  Both discredit you and your argument.  Furthermore, intellectual dishonesty runs completely contrary to the ideals of scientific inquiry which you attack Intelligent Design for violating.  Therefore you are a hypocrit.</p>
<p>Young Earth Creationism is a rival to Evolution, Intelligent Design is not.  Most Intelligent Design proponents reject Evolution, but the theory itself does not.</p>
<p>Evolution (personified) should take no issue with Intelligent Design.  Intelligent Design (though not a direct rival) is a rejection of Modernism, with its rejection of all things super-natural.  It is not a rejection of Evolution which makes no claim with regards to the super-natural.  Lets get this right, Please!</p>
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		<title>Pseudo-Polite Conversation</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Never mention politics or religion, in polite conversation.&#8221;  It&#8217;s a common phrase and you heard it many times.  It is also one of the most destructive ideas of Western civilization.  Think about it for a minute, is there anything more &#8230; <a href="http://www.jwkraft.com/2008/06/20/pseudo-polite-conversation/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;Never mention politics or religion, in polite conversation.&#8221;  It&#8217;s a common phrase and you heard it many times.  It is also one of the most destructive ideas of Western civilization.  Think about it for a minute, is there anything more important to discuss than politics and religion?  Religion, is what you believe, <em id="ow63">is, </em>and politics, is what you believe <em id="poqi">should be</em>.  Religion in this sense could also be a worldview, it could be a particular theory of metaphysics, or it could be one of the more traditional religions.  In any case, it deals with man&#8217;s relationship to God or lack there of and questions of ultimate truth and reality.  Politics deals with man&#8217;s relationships with each other.  I can think of nothing that could be more important to discuss, especially in polite conversation.  <br id="et1g" /> <br id="et1g0" /> The purpose of this proverb, (I&#8217;ll be referring to it as the pseudo-polite rule, and you&#8217;ll see why in a second) is to maintain a polite atmosphere.  The fear is that, if it&#8217;s discovered that two people in a conversation disagree with one another, then the conversation will quickly turn to bickering.  I contend that if the conversation would turn to bickering simply because there&#8217;s a disagreement, than it is not a polite conversation to begin with, only pseudo-polite.  The parties to a conversation like that never had any real respect for each other in the first place, they just didn&#8217;t have the opportunity to display their disrespect.  It is extremely foolish and immature to take the position that one can only be polite with those one agrees with.  Now, it is true that there are many foolish and immature people out there who <em id="as73">can </em>only be polite with those they agree with but these people are bigots, and creating a pseudo-polite environment, only enables them to continue in their bigotry.<br id="c5wu" /> <br id="c5wu0" /> Arguments are after all, cooperative, not competitive ventures.  The purpose of an argument is always to come to agreement.  Usually when arguing, you are seeking to convert your opponent to your point of view.  Sometimes you&#8217;re seeking compromise, but either way you&#8217;re seeking agreement.  Also, when venturing into an argument, you accept the risk that you could be the one converted.  In this way an argument is a cooperative venture.  Those who seek to &#8220;win an argument&#8221; were never in an argument in the first place, they were in a bickering match. <br id="h7sm" /> <br id="h7sm0" /> I don&#8217;t know when the pseudo-polite rule was invented, but I do know that through most of history, in most cultures, it was not the norm.  Perhaps it is because rhetoric is no longer taught in most schools and so people have a distorted view of argumentation and can no longer distinguish it from bickering, or perhaps it is this distorted view that led to rhetoric no longer being taught in school.  Whatever the cause, one need only look at the debates between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams to see that arguing was not always equated with bickering and enmity.  These two men had extremely divergent views in both politics and religion, yet they had tremendous respect for one another and tremendous friendship.  <br id="uxlp" /> <br id="uxlp0" /> When the United States was in its infancy.  There was no Australian ballot.  The Australian ballot is how essentially all voting takes place in the Western world today.  It has become so common that there&#8217;s no longer any need to refer to it as the Australian ballot.  It&#8217;s simply the way voting is done.  You go into a booth and close the curtain fill out the ballot and place it in a box.  In this way, no one knows, if you voted Republican, Democrat, Whig, Socialist, or Libertarian.  We have become so concerned with the pseudo-polite rule that casting a ballot behind a shower curtain, has become a sacred right in most people&#8217;s minds.  When the US was in its infancy, ballots were cast by walking up to a table and picking up a red piece of paper or a blue piece of paper and placing it in the ballot box.  When voting, you may have turned and held up your ballot for everyone to see, you may even have had to do this on stage.  All your friends, family, and neighbors knew who you voted for and you better believe it got discussed.  This discussion is something that we have lost and I hope and pray that we can get it back.<br id="ock8" /> <br id="ock80" /> I mentioned before that the pseudo-polite rule is one of the most destructive ideas of Western civilization, the reason for that is this.  The pseudo-polite role attempts to limit or shut down completely, argument and debate (among friends and family, at least).  Progress comes through dissent.  You can have no progress, if you have no disagreement.  If you only agree and you only speak about things you agree on then the status quo is the best you can hope for.  Progress only comes when someone says, &#8220;I think there is a better way to do this.&#8221;  That, is a disagreement.  <br id="ncpt" /> <br id="ncpt0" /> Furthermore, what is the point of conversation at all, if you&#8217;re only going to discuss things you agree on?  If you meet a friend for lunch and you both adhere to the pseudo-polite role, then you might as well just sit and smile at each other, because you&#8217;re not going to get anything done with conversation!  Conversation among friends like that (and they can&#8217;t really be friends if you can&#8217;t disagree) is nothing more than a mutual patting each other on the back fest!  A nation or a culture with out argument and debate is like a crab, it can only move sideways or backwards.  The nations with the most vibrant debating culture are sure to be the ones making the quickest and most rapid progress.  Get out of Pleasant Valley and stop being afraid of running into someone you might disagree with!<br id="a7jk" /></p>
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		<title>Languages of the Bible</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>A debate has raged for centuries in the halls of seminaries and theology departments around the world.  This debate centers on what language the New Testament was written in.  It is generally well accepted that the language of the Old Testament was Hebrew, most scholars accept this.  However, it&#8217;s generally thought that the New Testament was written originally in Koine Greek and the primary language spoken by Jesus and most of the apostles and early Jewish Christians was Aramaic.  If this was in fact the case, then the first writers of the New Testament were also the first translators of the New Testament.<br id="mirg0" /><br id="mirg1" />By far the majority of scholars hold to the New Testament source language being Greek.  There&#8217;s a minority who claim it was Aramaic, written in Syriac characters.  Other minority scholars suggests that the primary source languages the New Testament was Latin or even Hebrew.  The Aramaic minority community has very good evidence on their side, including, as has already been stated that Aramaic was the likely primary language of Jesus and the apostles.  There are certainly very early Aramaic versions of the New Testament in existence, and there are good cases to be made that some of the Greek New Testament appears to be a literary translation from Aramaic.  Those who believe the original language of the New Testament was Latin, point to so-calledLatinisms in books such as the  <em id="ty8i0">Gospel of Luke</em> and the <em id="ty8i1">Acts of the Apostles.<br id="st310" /></em><br id="st311" />What I do not understand, is why for centuries scholars and intellectuals have taken sides in this debate.  Rather than taking what I consider to be the most obvious position.  The books of the New Testament were written by various authors.  Over several decades to various people groups.  It&#8217;s well known that numerous languages were spoken throughout Palestine and the Roman Empire at that time.  Paul, who wrote much of the New Testament, was highly educated and almost certainly spoke several languages.  Luke was a doctor, and it can be assumed was also well educated, likely also speaking multiple languages.  It is also not out of the realm of possibility to suggest that the other writers of New Testament were multilingual.  Taking all this into consideration, it appears to me most likely, that the New Testament was written in multiple different languages.  I think likely much of it was written in Greek, but it&#8217;s very likely that someone is also written in Aramaic.  If the <em id="d-mp0">Gospel of Luke</em> and the <em id="d-mp1">Acts of the Apostles</em> were written, as some have theorized, as a legal defense of Paul to Roman officials, Latin would certainly be the most obvious language for them.<br id="l1130" /><br id="l1131" />While, you&#8217;re digesting that, think on this, what language was spoken in the exchange between Jesus and Pontius Pilate?<br id="jegy0" /></p>
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		<title>Titles for Christians, Humanists, christians, and humanists&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 04:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><em>    &#8220;While some humanists embrace calling themselves <u>secular humanists</u>, others prefer the term <u>Humanist, </u>capitalized and without any qualifying adjective. The terms secular humanism and Humanism overlap, but have different connotations. The term secular humanism emphasizes a non-religious focus, whereas the term Humanism deemphasizes this and may even encompass some nontheistic varieties of religious humanism. The term Humanism also emphasizes considering one&#8217;s humanism to be a life stance.<span title="This claim needs references to reliable sources since January 2008" style="white-space: nowrap"></span> &#8220;</em><br />
I think that  for once, Christians might need to take a clue from the Humanists.  Here&#8217;s what I mean, <em>America is a christian nation but not a Christian nation.  It may at some point have been a Christian nation but it is now a christian nation.   </em>There is often times confusion in conversation and dialogue  because so many people identify themselves as Christian and our culture is so heavily influence by Christianity and yet most of these people, exhibit few of the (albeit ritualistic) traits thought of as Christian and even fewer are &#8220;true Christians&#8221; (for lack of a better term, ie. people Paul would have recognized as Christians).  I propose a grammatical solution to all this confusion in the form of considering these people <em>christians</em> with a lowercase <em>c</em>.</p>
<p>Another tactic that people often use is to refer to these people as <em>cultural Christians</em>.  This has some merit, not the least of which is that it already is in some use and is well understood.  However it  is long and somewhat cumbersome.  Perhaps shortening it to <em>cchristian</em> would be of some utility.</p>
<p>There are two problems with both of the above tactics.  Fist is that christians are not Christian at all, so why honor them with the title (and by extension, degrade the gospel)?   Jesus said that he would prefer people were cold to lukewarm (Rev 3:15-16), and lukewarm is right where most of these people are. The second problem is that christians are a large group that has little by way of interest in distinguishing themselves from the minority Christians.  It is the Christians who would most benefit from the change and it would be difficult for them to convince the English speaking populace as a whole, to make the switch.</p>
<p>A solution to the first problem would be to address christians as <em>Westerners  </em>but this term could also be applied to Christians in the West and comes complete with its own set of connotations.  <em>Westernists</em> could work.  Westernist, meaning someone who subscribes to Western philosophy.  However this still does not address the second problem of gaining acceptance for the term.</p>
<p>One solution is to avoid the problem all together.  Christians are the ones who would most benefit, as stated above so they could accept any of the above solutions among themselves and not worry if the rest of the world follows suit or not.  Although this could work, it is not quite satisfactory.  One option which could work and the rest of the world may accept or would at least understand would be to change <em>Christian </em>to <em>Xristian</em>.  The word <em>Christ</em> in Greek is transliterate, <em>Xrist.</em>  So, in a way it would be getting back to the roots of Christianity, or Xristianity.  It would solve the problem of the confusion, at least in print, it does not further legitimize the misuse of the title of Christ, and it would avoid the last problem of acceptance as there can hardly be a dispute over the title a group gives to itself.</p>
<p>Let me know what you think.</p>
<p>Here is a link to the quote at the top,</p>
<p><span class="a"><a href="en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism"><strong>Secular</strong> <strong>humanism</strong></a></span><span title="This claim needs references to reliable sources since January 2008" style="white-space: nowrap"></span></p>
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		<title>A New Ethic?  Absolute Uniquanatism?*</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>I am generally a moral absolutist.  I believe that there is a right and wrong path to take on moral issues.  However I also believe that decisions must made completly on a case by case basis.  I believe that in the exact situation, defined by the exact parameters X, there is a right and a wrong.  X parameters will never exist again, so you cannot use X as an exact precedent for any future situations.  X can at best be an imperfect analogy to learn from. </p>
<p>An interesting facet of this is that, two very similar situations in two different times or locations could have opposite correct answers.  This starts to sound allot like relativism but it is not.  I will use an example that most of us are familiar with, getting a job. </p>
<p>1. You submit your CV to Mr. Z, HR manager for the company you want to work for.</p>
<p>2.  You make a follow up call to make sure Z got your CV, and he did.</p>
<p>3.  You hear nothing from Z.</p>
<p>4.  To get a job you will need to be persistent.</p>
<p>5. Calling again would mean that you believe that (A) Z is incompetent or that (B) he has rejected you and you don&#8217;t care.<br />
           (A) is insulting<br />
           (B) is dehumanizing</p>
<p>6.  There is a moral imperative to support yourself and your family.  Unless you have deep pockets or some other means of making a living that, means you need a job. </p>
<p>In this case, I believe that (6) trumps (5) and you should be persistent.  However in a more Utopian world, where people have progressed mentally and ethically, there would be no (4) and so you should <em>not</em>call again.  This is because the man on the street and Mr. Z alike, would both be aware of how rude it is to call someone after they have dealt you a <em>de facto</em> rejection.  We do not live in this world and so Mr. Z actually expects you to follow up several times if you really want the job. </p>
<p>So in a more perfect world there are more exacting standards of right and wrong.  I do believe that society (or humanity) can progress to higher level, where the higher standards would apply.  I also believe that we can regress, and have been doing allot more of that lately.</p>
<p>So I believe there is an absolute right and wrong relative to the exact parameters of the situation.  If there were no absolutes, it would be an amoral world.  If there were absolutes irregardless of the parameters, legalism would determine right and wrong.  This is one reason why Christianity is the only major world religion that is plausibly right.  In Christianity there are absolutes but there is not legalism.  This is because Christianity is a relationship, Christians are to seek council from God on issues, rather than citing case law.</p>
<p>*I know <em>Uniquanatism</em>is not a word.  I also know that it does not mean anything.  The point is that there are absolutes and every situation is absolutely unique. </p>
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		<title>The Golden Compass by, C.S. Lewis</title>
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<p>I went to see the <em>Golden Compass</em> yesterday, as I said I would.  I thought it was a good movie overall and I expect that the book is much better.  It <em>did</em> suffer from what I call <em>Lord of the Rings syndrome,</em>or LOTRS for short.  LOTRS occurs when a production team attempts to fit a long and complex story into a movie.  The LOTR all told, was at least nine hours long and an incredible movie but it did not do the story justice at all.  It was like a condensed children&#8217;s version of the story but, to do it right they would have had to at least double the length.  No one wants to sit through that so, they did the best they could.  I suspect the <em>Golden Compass</em>is the same way, though I still have not read it.  They had to tell the story, introduce the audience to a foreign universe, introduce new characters, and get the audience emotionally invested in the characters&#8217; individual plights all in less than two hours.  Still it is more than worth the price of a movie ticket.  The polar bear fight is worth the price of a movie ticket. </p>
<p>So what is my fundamentalist Christian take on the movie?  Well, one of the primary reasons I wanted to see the movie was to see if they could make a entertaining good v. evil story, without it being an allegory for Christ.  They could not.  I think this is telling.  It was (and is, it is a trilogy so the story is not over) a beautiful messiah narrative.  The Christian undertones where at least as strong as the <em>Chronicles of </em>Narnia.<em> </em>C.S. Lewis would have been proud to call it his own. </p>
<p>I find it interesting that the <em>Magisterium, </em>the organization that represents the church or religion and evil looks more like a secular anti-religious organization than a church.  The <em>truth</em>that the Magisterium is attempting to stamp out is a world filled with the supernatural and the mystical.  The most poignant example of this is the <em>daemons</em>.  In Pullman&#8217;s universe, the souls of humans walk beside them at all times in the form of animals, known as daemons.  They are like the person&#8217;s spirit.  They are part of what makes a person who they are.  The Magisterium preforms experiments to deprive children of their daemons, that is their souls.  So, the Magisterium is working to rid the world of the spiritual.  That does not sound like any religion that I know of. </p>
<p>The heroes of the story are attempting to preserve the truth and the villains are persecuting them, in an attempt to smother the truth.  This is exactly the story of the early church and persecution by the Roman Empire and others.  It is the story of the protestant revolution and persecution by the Vatican.  It is a Christian story. </p>
<p>I still await the day when some one will have the creativity to make a good and evil story with out paralleling reality. </p>
<p>See also my previous post on the Golden Compass, <a href="http://underagethinker.wordpress.com/2007/11/30/the-compass-and-the-cross/" title="The Compass and the Cross">The Compass and the Cross</a></p>
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		<title>The Barnyard Dialogues: Explained, Evil is the Problem</title>
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<p>I hope you have enjoyed reading my previous two posts entitled, The Barnyard Dialogues, &#8220;<a href="http://underagethinker.wordpress.com/2007/12/02/the-barnyard-dialogues-part-i-two-chickens-take-on-the-problem-of-evil/" title="Part ONE">Part I, Two Chickens Take on the Problem of Evil</a>&#8221; and &#8220;<a href="http://underagethinker.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/the-barnyard-dialogues-part-ii-two-chickens-take-another-swipe-at-the-problem-of-evil/" title="Part TWO">Part II, Two Chickens Take another Swipe at the Problem of Evil.&#8221;  </a>.  If you have not then, click the links and enjoy them. </p>
<p>If you have read them then I&#8217;m sure you are aware that they are written as satire and not merely for entertainment value.  I want to present here a partial explanation of what was meant by the stories.  I want to say here, what I meant to say there, only this time without any talking chickens.  So here goes.</p>
<p>As the subtitles say, the story is about the problem of evil.  For those of you who are not familiar with the problem of evil, I have placed the &#8220;Logical Problem of Evil&#8221; below.  It is taken from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Problem_of_evil&amp;oldid=175729139" title="Wikipedia, Problem of Evil">Wikipedia</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Logical problem of evil</strong></p>
<ol>
<li>God exists. (premise)</li>
<li>God is omnipotent and omniscient. (premise — or true by definition of the word &#8220;God&#8221;)</li>
<li>God is all-benevolent. (premise — or true by definition)</li>
<li>All-benevolent beings are opposed to all evil. (premise — or true by definition)</li>
<li>All-benevolent beings who can eliminate evil will do so immediately when they become aware of it. (premise)</li>
<li>God is opposed to all evil. (conclusion from 3 and 4)</li>
<li>God can eliminate evil completely and immediately. (conclusion from 2)
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<li>Whatever the end result of suffering is, God can bring it about by ways that do not include suffering. (conclusion from 2)</li>
<li>God has no reason not to eliminate evil. (conclusion from 7.1)</li>
<li>God has no reason not to act immediately. (conclusion from 5)</li>
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<li>God will eliminate evil completely and immediately. (conclusion from 6, 7.2 and 7.3)</li>
<li>Evil exists, has existed, and probably will always exist. (premise)</li>
<li>Items 8 and 9 are contradictory; therefore, one or more of the premises is false: either God does not exist, evil does not exist, or God is not simultaneously omnipotent, omniscient, and all-benevolent (i.e. God is omnipotent and omniscient but not all-benevolent, omnipotent and all-benevolent but not omniscient, or omniscient and all-benevolent but not omnipotent).</li>
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<p>To be simplistic and brief, the problem of evil says that a good god and evil cannot co-exist, therefore one or the other must not exist.  Because most people have experienced evil in some form, it is used to make a case against the existence of god.  A solution to the problem of evil is called a &#8220;theodicy&#8221;.  Though many different theodicies exist, what I have tried to demonstrate through the Barnyard Dialogues is a particular theodicy based on semantics.  I suspect that others have noticed it before me and, I believe that this should only lend credence to it.  I will explain it below.</p>
<p>Evil is not an entity that exists on its own merit.  Evil exists as a parasite to good.  In the absolute absence of good there could be no evil.  The opposite is not true, good does not require evil in order to be good.  Something is good when it fulfills the purpose it was meant to serve.  Something lacks goodness when it fails to fulfill the purpose it was meant for.  Something is evil when it fulfills a purpose contrary to what it was meant for.  Therefore, having a good purpose is a prerequisite for being evil. </p>
<p>So in order to call something evil someone, must first give it a purpose for it to pervert.  So Evil must be defined in relation to somebody.  The vast majority of the time evil is defined in relation to either man or to God. </p>
<p>In the first illustration with the chickens, Clare defines Evil (missing eggs) by chickens (man).  She then comes to the conclusion that because evil exists, the farmer (God) must not.  She sees this as a mistake when she learns that the farmer is the one taking the eggs for his own good purpose.  In the Problem of Evil, it is a mistake to define evil on man&#8217;s terms and then apply it to God.  God is by definition a greater being than man, just as the farmer in the story, is a greater being than the chickens. </p>
<p>In Part II, Clare defines evil in terms of the farmer (God) but this also is a mistake as it presupposes that the farmer <em>does in fact </em>exist.  If evil as defined by God exists then, God must exist.  If God does not exist, then neither does evil as defined by God and the whole argument falls apart as, evil must exist in order to be a problem. </p>
<p>It seems to me that the problem of evil is that it cannot be defined in terms that would cast doubt on the existence of God. </p>
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		<title>The Barnyard Dialogues: Part II, Two Chickens Take another Swipe at the Problem of Evil</title>
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<p>The Scene: Two Chickens in nesting boxes at night.</p>
<p>Clare: You still awake, Marsha?</p>
<p>Marsha:</p>
<p>Clare: Marsha!</p>
<p>Marsha: Hu! What?</p>
<p>Clare: I&#8217;ve been doing some figuring again</p>
<p>Marsha: The kind you do with your toes, or the kind you do with your brain?</p>
<p>Clare: The brain kind.</p>
<p>Marsha: Clare, the last time you did brain figures, you set my rheumatoids off into a scuttle and I laid pear shaped eggs for three weeks!  Besides, I talked to Herman the Goat, and he told me all about the eggs.</p>
<p>Clare: You spoke with Herman the Goat?  What did he say?</p>
<p>Marsha: He said that you&#8217;re just an afarmerist and he&#8217;s seen your kind before.  And he told me what really happens to our eggs.</p>
<p>Clare: Well out with it!  What did he say?</p>
<p>Marsha: Well, you&#8217;re not going to believe this but&#8230; I didn&#8217;t believe it either when Herman the Goat first told me but&#8230;</p>
<p>Clare: Marsha!</p>
<p>Marsha: OK. Herman the Goat said that what really happens to the eggs is that&#8230; that the farmer takes em!</p>
<p>Clare: What?!  What would the farmer want with our eggs?</p>
<p>Marsha: He takes them in the house so that his wife can sit on them.  Herman the Goat says that she can&#8217;t lay eggs.  It has something to do with the blue jean overalls getting the way, but he reckons that a woman of her girth could sit on at least three dozen at a time!</p>
<p>Clare: Well I&#8217;ll be!  If I had teeth, I&#8217;d whistle through em!  How did Herman the Goat get to be so smart?</p>
<p>Marsha: The beard and the trash.</p>
<p>Clare: What?</p>
<p>Marsha:Its the beard and the trash.  That&#8217;s what makes him so smart.  Just think about it for a second.  The beard is what Herman the Goat has that no other animal has.</p>
<p>Clare: Hmmm.  Makes sense, but what about the trash?</p>
<p>Marsha: Well, important documents and manuscripts and such get put in the trash.  Herman the Goat, he eats the trash, see?  Well when he finds an important manuscript, he doesn&#8217;t eat it straight away. </p>
<p>Clare: He doesn&#8217;t?</p>
<p>Marsha: Nope, he reads it first.  Then he eats it.</p>
<p>Clare: He never ceases to amaze.</p>
<p>Marsha: And you know the farmer&#8217;s wife tells him important stuff too.  Just the other day, she had to tell him something so important that she yelled it out the kitchen window instead of walking outside to tell him.</p>
<p>Clare: What was it?</p>
<p>Marsha: &#8220;Herman, zen tha turn up patcha gin!&#8221;  And do you know what he did?</p>
<p>Clare: What?</p>
<p>Marsha: He kicked up his hoofs and ran off as fast as he could to take care of whatever emergency it was that she told him about!</p>
<p>Clare: What a trooper!</p>
<p>Marsha: So, the point is that, the farmer takes the eggs so that his wife can sit on them.  That is not evil and, <em>that</em> should be the end of your nonsense about the farmer not existing.</p>
<p> Clare: Oh, but that is what I was going to tell you.</p>
<p>Marsha: What?</p>
<p>Clare: I have another theory about the farmer.  This one has nothing to do with eggs.</p>
<p>Marsha: What is it this time?</p>
<p>Clare: Its Old Stella.</p>
<p>Marsha: What about her?</p>
<p>Clare: Well, didn&#8217;t you hear?</p>
<p>Marsha: No?  I don&#8217;t think so?</p>
<p>Clare: She finally kicked the bucket!</p>
<p>Marsha: No! You don&#8217;t say!</p>
<p>Clare: Yep, she just up and keeled over, by the windmill yesterday mornin&#8217;.</p>
<p>Marsha: Was it the droppsies?</p>
<p>Clare: I heard it was cold feet, but of course I can&#8217;t be sure.</p>
<p>Marsha: Well that&#8217;s a shame.  She was a good hen.</p>
<p>Clare: That&#8217;s my point.</p>
<p>Marsha: What&#8217;s your point?</p>
<p>Clare: That she was a good hen.  She was a prize layer.  The farmer paid sixteen dollars for her at the fair.</p>
<p>Marsha: Sixteen!</p>
<p>Clare: Yes, sixteen.  Least-ways, that&#8217;s what Thelma told me.  So, my theory about the farmer and the eggs didn&#8217;t work&#8230;</p>
<p>Marsha: No, it sure didn&#8217;t.  The farmer exists and he is the one taking the eggs, so its not an evil after all.</p>
<p>Clare: Well I&#8217;m still not convinced.</p>
<p>Marsha: Oh Clare!  Give it a rest!</p>
<p>Clare: Just hear me out.</p>
<p>Marsha: Remember my rheumatoids.</p>
<p>Clare: The farmer needs chickens, right?  Its part of being a farmer, right?</p>
<p>Marsha: Makes sense.</p>
<p>Clare: So, Old Stella, being what she is&#8230;</p>
<p>Marsha: MmmmHmmm.</p>
<p>Clare: Well that&#8217;s an evil that even the farmer would see.  He&#8217;s out sixteen dollars!  He&#8217;s got to replace Stella!</p>
<p>Marsha: Clare, I&#8217;m starting to get goose-pimply again.</p>
<p>Clare:  How could the farmer allow such a thing to happen?</p>
<p>Marsha: Clare.</p>
<p>Clare: The farmer cannot exist!</p>
<p>Marsha: Clare!</p>
<p>Clare: At last! I have proved it!</p>
<p>Marsha: Oh oh! I just don&#8217;t know what to think!  Now you&#8217;ve got me thinking like an afarmerist!</p>
<p>Clare: Yeah?  How&#8217;s it feel?</p>
<p>Marsha:  Oh, My feathers are all in a tizzle!  I need to talk to Herman the Goat about this.  I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s got an expla &#8211;<em>Ploop</em>&#8211; You&#8217;ve made me go and lay an egg!</p>
<p>Clare: Is it pear-shaped?</p>
<p>Marsha: No. Its more like a potato! </p>
<p>Clare: Well, the truth can be difficult to swallow at first. </p>
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		<title>The Barnyard Dialogues: Part I, Two Chickens Take on the Problem of Evil</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The scene: Two chickens (hens) in a barnyard, early one morning, happily pecking away at grain and grasshoppers. Clare: (pausing from pecking) Marsha,? Marsha: -Peck, peck- Yes, Clare? What is it? Clare: I&#8217;ve been doing some figuring, and&#8230; Marsha: (Interrupting) &#8230; <a href="http://www.jwkraft.com/2007/12/02/the-barnyard-dialogues-part-i-two-chickens-take-on-the-problem-of-evil/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>The scene: Two chickens (hens) in a barnyard, early one morning, happily pecking away at grain and grasshoppers.</p>
<p>Clare: <em>(pausing from pecking)</em> Marsha,?</p>
<p>Marsha: -<em>Peck, peck</em>- Yes, Clare? What is it?</p>
<p>Clare: I&#8217;ve been doing some figuring, and&#8230;</p>
<p>Marsha: (Interrupting) Do you count with you back toes too?</p>
<p> Clare: What?</p>
<p>Marsha: When doin your figures&#8230;do you count on your back toes or just the front three?</p>
<p>Clare: No. No. Not that kind of figuring.  I mean, I&#8217;ve been thinking about something.</p>
<p>Marsha: Well -<em>Peck</em>- do you?  Use your back toe, I mean.</p>
<p>Clare: Well&#8230;I, only when the numbers are greater than six.  But that&#8217;s not what I was talking about.  I was <em>thinking</em> about our eggs.</p>
<p> Marsha: What about them?</p>
<p>Clare: They were gone again last night, when we went back into the barn.</p>
<p>Marsha: Well, so -<em>peck, peck</em>- what?  They&#8217;re gone every night.</p>
<p>Clare: Yes, that&#8217;s just it.  We spend all night laying eggs and sitting on them and the next night they are gone again! </p>
<p>Marsha: Clare Honey, you have a brain smaller than a shelled pecan.  Leave the thinking to the goats, and use your back toes when doin your figures. </p>
<p>Clare: No.  Don&#8217;t you see what I&#8217;m getting at?</p>
<p>Marsha: I see what you&#8217;re <em>not</em> getting at.  Grasshoppers, that&#8217;s what.</p>
<p>Clare:  The farmer.  I&#8217;m getting at the farmer!</p>
<p>Marsha: Where is the farmer any way? -<em>peck</em>-</p>
<p>Clare: Oh, I think he&#8217;s in the barn, cleaning out our nesting boxes.  But, what I was saying was&#8230; The farmer is good right?</p>
<p>Marsha: There&#8217;s one!</p>
<p>Clare: (turning quickly) -<em>Peck</em>- mmmm&#8230; thanks, Marsha. -<em>Gulp</em>-&#8230; So the farmer is good, right?  I mean he gives us cracked corn, he cleans out our nesting boxes, he keeps the fox away&#8230;</p>
<p>Marsha: Yeah?</p>
<p>Clare: And, he is powerful.  No one else can drive the tractor, or get cracked corn.</p>
<p>Marsha: -<em>Peck</em>- Or -<em>peck</em>- kill snakes.</p>
<p>Clare: The dog killed a snake, last April.</p>
<p>Marsha: That&#8217;s true.</p>
<p>Clare: But, the dog works for the farmer, so that still counts.</p>
<p>Marsha: Good, I thought so.</p>
<p>Clare: So the farmer is good and he can do all these things.  Why doesn&#8217;t he save our eggs!</p>
<p>Marsha: What!?</p>
<p>Clare: He is good, so he <em>wants </em>to save our eggs.</p>
<p>Marsha: Well, yeah.</p>
<p>Clare: And, he should be able to.  After all, if he can drive a tractor and kill snakes then surely he can save our eggs!</p>
<p>Marsha: So what exactly are you getting at?</p>
<p>Clare: Well what I was thinkin was that maybe, the farmer doesn&#8217;t exist at all.</p>
<p>Marsha: Oh, Clare! shhh.  Sit down. You are giving me the heebie-jeebies!  Of course the farmer exists, he is in the barn right now!  I told you to leave the thinking to the goats.</p>
<p>Clare:  Maybe we just <em>think </em>he exists.  Maybe our primitive ancestors made up the farmer to explain where the cracked corn comes from.  All this time we have been deceiving ourselves into thinking we see the farmer when in reality he does not exist at all! </p>
<p>Marsha: Oh, oh, I just don&#8217;t know what to think of all this!  You&#8217;ve made me goose-pimply all over and made my feathers stand on end! </p>
<p>Clare: You said it yourself, we have brains the size of a shelled pecan.  We have been deceived all this time! </p>
<p>Marsha:  I said <em>you</em> had a brain <em>smaller</em> than a shelled pecan, and I&#8217;m sure of it now!</p>
<p>Clare: (gazing up) I feel as if I have broken through a glass ceiling and a new age has begun! -peck-</p>
<p><a href="http://underagethinker.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/the-barnyard-dialogues-part-ii-two-chickens-take-another-swipe-at-the-problem-of-evil/">Barnyard Dialogues Part II</a></p>
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		<title>Intelligent Design&#8217;s War on Science Resolved, Sort of</title>
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<p>Intelligent Design and its proponents have been accused of making a war on science.  However, most of the leading figures in the I.D. movement are themselves scientists.  It is not a matter of method; the methods of I.D. scientists are scientific.  They are more or less identical to those used in archeology and forensics.  The reason I.D. is denounced by the scientific community is the conclusion drawn.  According to Dr. William Dembski, I.D. is, &#8220;<em>the study of patterns in nature that are best described as signs of intelligence.&#8221;</em>  It is these signs of intelligence that have the conventional scientific community up in arms.  They take offence not because the conclusions are not logical and not because the methods are not scientific* but rather because, the materialist ideology that pervades in the scientific community does not allow for the possibility of intelligence.  Some scientists are willing to entertain the idea of a designing intelligence but not scientifically.  That kind of thing is in their view, for the church to deal with and not the scientific community.  These scientist believe that science is the study of what is natural and thus anything invoking the <em>super</em>natural is by definition not science.  The I.D. scientists are fighting for a broader definition of science, one that would allow for the possibility of the supernatural when that is the most logical conclusion.  Thus, they are not fighting <em>against</em> science but rather to reform it.  Just as protestants did not fight against the church but to reform it and that era is now know as the <em>Protestant Reformation</em>.  What is being attempted by the I.D. proponents is a scientific reformation not a war on science. </p>
<p>So this all comes down to who&#8217;s definition of what is scientific you accept.  Those who hold to the narrower view of science do not say that the I.D. researchers do not have a <em>right</em>to do their research but that it is <em>not scientific.  </em>So if everyone is willing to live and let live, what is the big deal?  Why get hung up on who is scientific and who is not?  The answer is two fold, schooling and money.  If the broader definition of science is accepted then the I.D. proponents would be officially doing &#8220;science&#8221; and could apply for and get government grants.  These grants would then <em>not</em> go to the scientists who are today fighting for the narrower definition. </p>
<p>If I.D. is accepted as science it would also be taught in the science class along side with and as a competing theory to evolution.  Evolution is the sacred cow of materialist ideology.  Richard Dawkins said, <em>&#8220;Darwin made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist.&#8221;</em>  For the materialists, teaching anything that competes with evolution in a science class is like teaching the Quran in Sunday school.  It simply cannot be done. </p>
<p>While I haven&#8217;t thought of a way to solve the first dilemma accept for the government to stop giving out research grants altogether (and stop taxing us for them!).  I believe I can solve the problem of the competing theories in the classroom and it seems only logical.  Aristotle. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s it.  Aristotle solved this problem way way back when.  You see today what is known as the theory of evolution is said (by mainstream scientists) to be a scientific fact.  Michael Ruse famously said, &#8220;Evolution is fact, Fact, FACT!&#8221;  I suspect that some I.D. proponents would say (though they are not as loud) that intelligent design theory is a scientific fact.  Both of these &#8220;scientific facts&#8221; are called theories, even by their supporters.  This is because no one alive today witnessed the dawn of the universe (or of life), no one wrote down what happened (religious texts aside), and no photographs of the event survive.  So no matter the <em>volume</em> of evidence that is collected to support any particular theory, it will all be circumstantial and thus subject to interpretation and not of sufficient <em>quality</em> to be <em>proof</em> beyond <em>any</em> doubt. </p>
<p>So what does Aristotle have to do with all of this?  Aristotle distinguished between general knowledge and scientific knowledge.  The scientists who hold to the narrower view of science and still believe in the supernatural are making a distinction between kinds of knowledge as well.  Another example of this distinction is demonstrated by the difference in the phrases, <em>&#8220;beyond reasonable doubt</em>&#8221; and &#8220;<em>beyond the shadow of a doubt</em>.&#8221;  Aristotle said that for any knowledge to qualify as scientific knowledge required <em>demonstration</em>.  What is meant by demonstration, is that not only do we know something, but we know that it must necessarily be, and cannot not be.  This is the criteria that I propose we use in determining what is a scientific fact.  The very fact that there is debate about I.D. and evolution excludes both of them.  So neither need be or should be in a science class. </p>
<p>*I am obviously not saying that mainline scientists accept the claims of I.D.  They do however give <em>de facto</em> recognition to both the logic and the methods through their acceptance of archeology, forensics, and the like as legitimate scientific fields of study. </p>
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